11:00 < rob_ripencc> Hello. Welcome to the Tuesday Plenary session 11:00-12:30. My name is Rob Allen from the RIPE NCC. I will be monitoring chat during this session. If you have a question or comment, I can read it out for you. Please make your questions as clear as possible. I will read out any questions when the speaker asks for questions at the end of his/her presentation. Please note that all chat transcripts will be archived and made available to
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11:02 < amd2-ripe> hmm.. there's no rating posibility for Jen Linkova's talk ?
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11:02 < BSS27-RIPE> rob_ripencc: so Jen Linkova is on in a sec
11:03 < BSS27-RIPE> rob_ripencc: but she is beyond rating ?
11:03 < jzp> BSS27-RIPE: the rating exists when the doc is in rosie, iirc.
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11:03 < jzp> i believe she was uploading during the break
11:03 < amd2-ripe> makes sense :)
11:04 < rob_ripencc> Jen Linkova, Google, has begun her presentation: Google Backbone Monitoring, Localizing Packet Loss in a Large Complex Network
11:04 < jzp> some of the lightning talks are up now, but i don't see hers yet
11:05 < BSS27-RIPE> Now Todd is listed with the RIPE Plenary Program
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11:05 < tore> yep, slides are missing
11:05 < Miriam> what just happened to the sound?
11:05 < Miriam> Sounds like I'm now listening to radio
11:06 < BSS27-RIPE> wrong inputline ?
11:06 < tore> sound is fine here
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11:06 < SLU-RIPE> AM radio?
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11:06 < BSS27-RIPE> she fine on the PA in the room
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11:06 < Alan_Steel> Sounds works just fine for me
11:06 < pkern> Fine here, too. But broad frequency band.
11:07 < as8596> sound is fine here, too. no problem at all.
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11:07 < Miriam> Reload helped
11:07 < Mihnea_RIPENCC> tore: The presenter has not used our presentation upload system, she came directly with the slides on a USB stick. We will ask her to upload them to the website as well.
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11:07 < Miriam> Appears the sound was hogged by completely unrelated site with documentation
11:07 < tore> Mihnea_RIPENCC: :( it's impossible to read the slides off the stream
11:08 < Mihnea_RIPENCC> tore: apologies for that, I will ask the web caster to present a wider view of the screen
11:09 < tore> I suspect that they will be unreadable in any case, unless they are using a very large font
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11:09 < tore> since the video resolution isn't very high
11:09 < Jarlskov> tore: Often Google won't publish slides...
11:09 < amd2-ripe> it actually looks like a fairly large font
11:09 < pkern> If you'd using something that can do picture-in-picture...
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11:11 < Elch> hi
11:12 < GPF> Could you perhaps turn the sound in the room down a little bit?
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11:13 < tore> thanks, this is usable
11:13 < pkern> thanks
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11:14 < GPF> great
11:14 < GPF> thanks
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11:20 < GPF> mmh are the google slides available somewhere?
11:21 < GPF> they are not on the website
11:21 < BSS27-RIPE> nop
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11:21 < SLU-RIPE> probably classified TS-COMSEC like all google stuff :/
11:22 < jzp> two of the three lightning talks for this session aren't ratable
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11:23 < jzp> SLU-RIPE: amusing to state that right next to lorenzo's talk being in the same session block.
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11:24 < rob_ripencc> Jen Linkova has asked for questions.
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11:26 < SLU-RIPE> isthat one of the lightnings?
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11:26 < jzp> someone should just ask if the slides will be available if they are concerend ;-)
11:26 < jzp> > two of the three lightning talks for this session aren't ratable
11:26 < Mihnea_RIPENCC> jzp: The presentations are ratable now.
11:26 < jzp> rating now fixed, thanks
11:27 < jzp> :-)
11:27 < BSS27-RIPE> Mihnea_RIPENCC: Jen's is still not up
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11:28 < Mihnea_RIPENCC> BSS27-RIPE: She did not upload it herself
11:28 < davew> and she's sort of busy to upload it now :)
11:28 * jzp nods davew
11:28 < Mihnea_RIPENCC> BSS27-RIPE: Once she finishes the presentation, we'll ask her to do it. We can't upload it without her permission.
11:30 < rob_ripencc> The presentation has ended.
11:31 < GPF> thanks
11:31 < rob_ripencc> Job Snijders has begun his presentation: NLNOG RING 2012 âÃì Network Debugging Never Was Easier
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11:41 < jerome-franceix> something's happening with the translation
11:41 < klaver-12902> transcrip system broke ?
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11:41 < BSS27-RIPE> think transcript translater just died ;-)
11:42 < lochii> heh
11:42 < ripe725> seems to be dos'ed
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11:42 < olaf> Wow... the transcript is not to its usual standard...
11:42 < lochii> eih poirewhiorewhiorwhrewioegw oih rerwoghrwoighi34gh423t324 rw3ih34 f
11:42 < jerome-franceix> speaker ddos
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11:43 < SLU-RIPE> welsh
11:43 < BSS27-RIPE> :-D
11:43 < ripe725> wtf?
11:43 < ripe195> its being looked at
11:44 < Mihnea_RIPENCC> We are experiencing issues with the Stenography transcript. We are working to fix it right now, apologies for the inconvenience!
11:44 < ripe725> thanks! :)
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11:45 < will-h> i wondered why all the words seem to look dutch instead of english.
11:45 < colin> getting the raw phonetic transcript
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11:47 < Jarlskov> Transcript rerun.
11:47 < ripe725> i'm feeling stressed while reading
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11:49 < Jarlskov> At this speed a RIPE meeting will only be 1 day...
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11:50 < klaver-12902> https://ripe65.ripe.net/presentations/105-RIPE65_NLNOG_RING_Job_Snijders.pdf
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11:51 < rob_ripencc> Job Snijders has asked for questions.
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11:56 < teun-12859> http://teun.tv/ring-trace/ for more ring-trace images
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11:58 < colin> annoying that you can't scroll back in the transcript
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11:58 < Robert_NCC1> select all, copy, paste to editor, scroll as much as you want
11:59 < rob_ripencc> The presentation has ended.
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11:59 < rob_ripencc> Geoff Huston, APNIC, has begun his lightning talk: Measuring DNSSEC
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12:01 < pkern> adblockers?
12:01 < SLU-RIPE> yes please
12:01 < Robert_NCC1> negligible
12:02 < pkern> And non-clicks leak out to advertisers themselves? Annoying.
12:03 < will-h> pkern: yes because flash can pull a url, i think?
12:04 < Robert_NCC1> yes. whether you like it or not, the ads on your screen *can* reach out to external hosts, and leak some information about you
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12:05 < pkern> Long live flashblock (also for other reasons, performance-related) and adblock plus, I guess.
12:05 < colin> the collusion plugin for firefox and chrome is worth installing
12:05 < colin> just to see how much is leaking
12:05 < SLU-RIPE> NoScript ftw
12:06 < Robert_NCC1> if you're ok with half the internet not working any moreâö
12:07 < pkern> Half of the internet is not working over IPv6-only. But adblockers don't make a difference. (Well, they do a massive difference when you then touch an Android device afterwards.)
12:07 < rob_ripencc> Geoff Huston has asked for questions
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12:08 < BSS27-RIPE> aw - he took the DK slide out of the pres.
12:09 < ripe898> YOu an also read Geoff's DNSSEC Counting on RIPE Labs: https://labs.ripe.net
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12:10 < rob_ripencc> The presentation has ended.
12:10 < rob_ripencc> Lorenzo Colitti, Google, has begun his lightning talk: Observations from World IPv6 Launch
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12:11 < tore> I experience that the video over time starts lagging behind the steganography
12:12 < Mihnea_RIPENCC> tore: You are correct, there is a delay introduced by our streaming server, the video will always be a few seconds "in the past".
12:12 < tore> Mihnea_RIPENCC: more than "a few seconds"
12:12 < tore> approaching minute(s)
12:13 < Mihnea_RIPENCC> tore: That is not normal. Could you try refreshing the page to re-strat the stream?
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12:13 < tore> I saw geoff still on stage, saw that lorenzo had gone on (from the text), and then reloading the page and restarting the stream - there he was
12:13 < klaver-12902> *re-start
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12:17 < rob_ripencc> Lorenzo Colitti has asked for questions.
12:17 < rob_ripencc> The presentation has ended.
12:18 < rob_ripencc> Todd Underword, Chair of the RIPE Plenary PC, has begun his presentation on the RIPE Plenary Programme
12:18 < rob_ripencc> Todd Underwood
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12:27 < job> when and how are ratings available?
12:27 < job> i need to show my grades to my mother
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12:28 < rhe-786> Todd has to write out your report card first. :)
12:28 < boggits> Q can todd do a presentation on DNS on Friday?
12:28 < rob_ripencc> The presentation has ended.
12:28 < rob_ripencc> The session has ended
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