14:04 < SandraB_ripencc> Hello, Welcome to the Anti-abuse Working Group. i will be doing the chat monitoring for this session. If you have any questions for the presenters, please ask your questions clearly and state your name and organisation. I will ask the question on your behalf on the microphone. Enjoy the session.
14:04 < SandraB_ripencc> Brian Nisbet is opening this session.
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14:08 < SandraB_ripencc> But Klaasen started his presentation : The clean IT project. reducing the impact of the terrorist use of Internet"
14:09 < Rejo> SandraB_ripencc: What's the difference between this and the #coop channel?
14:09 < Djinh_ncc> #coop is for the co-operation wg session
14:09 < brian> Rejo: This is a different working group. CleanIT kinda straddles the boundary, but it's reported on here.
14:10 < SandraB_ripencc> Thanks Brian :)
14:10 < Rejo> Now I get it. Thanks.
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14:12 < SandraB_ripencc> basically the Cooperation WG discusses outreach from the ripe community to governments, regulators and NGOs and the anti-abuse is usually about online abuse. It covers technical but also non-technical sides.
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14:16 < SandraB_ripencc> Do you have any questions for But?
14:16 < SandraB_ripencc> If so, please tell us your name and organisation.
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14:27 < Bradley> As much in contact as they can with closed process documents, contradiction?
14:27 < SandraB_ripencc> Bradley do you want me to ask any question to the speaker?
14:27 < Bradley> Oh no
14:27 < SandraB_ripencc> ah
14:27 < SandraB_ripencc> :)
14:27 < shane> I don't think people understand how insanely open and transparent people working on the Internet actually are.
14:28 < Alexander> Question to But Klassen: How many terrirorstic acts have been prevented in his country? How many of them have been prevented by usage of Internet?
14:28 < SandraB_ripencc> I will ask your question, Alexander.
14:29 < Arjan_XS4ALL> I have a question as well: Can he list some of the participants which have been 'reached out too' in the creation of this document?
14:29 < Rejo> SandraB_ripencc: Given that some of the proposal have a clear impact on the fundamental rights of internet users and given the fact that several governement institutions are involved in delivering the objectives, shouldn't these proposed restrictions based on formal law? Such rules must be created in full transparancy and the parliament must be able to reject proposals w/ restrictions on freedom of communications and privacy when it sees fit. ...
14:29 < Rejo> ... [Rejo Zenger, Bits of Freedom]
14:30 < SandraB_ripencc> Rejo, I am in line to the microphone, to ask your question too
14:30 < Rejo> Sure, take it easy. :)
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14:34 < Rejo> Alexander's questions has been asked but it wasn't answered.
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14:34 < ripe014> *agrees with Rejo*
14:35 < SandraB_ripencc> I am sorry Rejo
14:35 < SandraB_ripencc> No time
14:35 < SandraB_ripencc> :(
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14:35 < Rejo> I am listening. Too bad. Shit happens. I should have asked it earlier.
14:36 < SandraB_ripencc> The presentation has ended
14:36 * Bradley wonders if Russ is in here?
14:36 < SandraB_ripencc> Now our lovely colleague Athina Fragkouli is up to present about The Data Protection Report.
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14:38 < SandraB_ripencc> Rejo, you can send your answered question to the Anti-Abuse mailing list if you wish an answer
14:38 < Rejo> Yes. However, But won't be answering I am afraid? :)
14:39 < SLU-RIPE> I would recommend that other presentations on this subject be moved to the Plenary
14:39 < brian> SLU-RIPE: You mean CleanIT?
14:39 < SLU-RIPE> Yep
14:39 < SLU-RIPE> this affects pretty much everyone
14:39 < brian> So noted.
14:40 < brian> Not guaranteeing, but so noted, I think you're right.
14:45 < SandraB_ripencc> Rejo, if you want an answer to your question try to email But but [dot] klaasen [at] cleanITproject [dot] eu
14:45 < SandraB_ripencc> the contact info is on his slides
14:45 < Rejo> Yes, I know. Thanks for all of your help.
14:45 < SandraB_ripencc> you are welcome
14:46 < Rejo> Thing is, I believe that him answering in public is just as important as the answer it self.
14:47 < Rejo> But, thanks. :)
14:47 < SandraB_ripencc> :)
14:50 < SandraB_ripencc> Any questions for Athina?
14:51 < SandraB_ripencc> Athia finished the presentation.
14:51 < SandraB_ripencc> Now Christian Teuschel is presenting on Anti-abuse information in RIPEStat.
14:56 < SandraB_ripencc> If you wanna try out RIPEStat, go to https://stat.ripe.net/
14:56 < SandraB_ripencc> and ask your questions to Christian in a moment.
15:00 < SandraB_ripencc> Any questions?
15:00 < SandraB_ripencc> about the anti-abuse info?
15:04 < SandraB_ripencc> Any questions for Christian?
15:09 < SandraB_ripencc> If you have any feedback for Christian, please send it to stat [at] ripe [dot] net
15:09 < Robert_NCC> or even, start a discussion on the aa mailing list!
15:10 < Robert_NCC> we're going to bring our questions there
15:10 < SandraB_ripencc> The presentation has ended.
15:10 < SandraB_ripencc> Now we have a presentation from Ingrid Wijte from the NCC about Re-allocation of address blocks.
15:11 < SandraB_ripencc> Please, find the slides of the presentations on https://ripe65.ripe.net/programme/meeting-plan/anti-abuse-wg/
15:14 < SandraB_ripencc> Any questions?
15:14 < SandraB_ripencc> For Ingrid?
15:14 < SandraB_ripencc> Igrid finished her presentation.
15:14 < SandraB_ripencc> Ingrid
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15:15 < SandraB_ripencc> Now, Peter Forsman, presenting on" A study of 'Chinese counterfeit shops'"
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15:33 < SandraB_ripencc> Any questions for Peter?
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15:35 < SandraB_ripencc> the presentation has ended.
15:36 < SandraB_ripencc> Now Brian Nisbet is giving the usual WG updates on policies
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15:36 < SandraB_ripencc> Policy 2011-06 has reached consensus
15:36 < SandraB_ripencc> Abuse Contact management in the RIPE DB
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15:40 < SandraB_ripencc> Do you have any comments or questions to Brian on the updates given at the moment?
15:41 < SandraB_ripencc> Any AOB?
15:42 < SandraB_ripencc> Thank you and bye.
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15:42 < SandraB_ripencc> The sessions has ended.
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